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	<title>Comments on: Spelling it out some more.</title>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268320</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about avenues to pursue, Lord Lucas in his blog - http://lordlucas.blogspot.com/ - says that it&#039;s as important to focus on lobbying (or whatever) the Conservatives and Liberals as it is Labour, because Labour will &quot;not be the next government and will not be able to implement these plans&quot;. 

Fingers crossed - everyone&#039;s feeling horrendous but it&#039;s not over for HE yet - we need to try and make sure the people in power next will be more supportive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about avenues to pursue, Lord Lucas in his blog &#8211; <a href="http://lordlucas.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lordlucas.blogspot.com/</a> &#8211; says that it&#8217;s as important to focus on lobbying (or whatever) the Conservatives and Liberals as it is Labour, because Labour will &#8220;not be the next government and will not be able to implement these plans&#8221;. </p>
<p>Fingers crossed &#8211; everyone&#8217;s feeling horrendous but it&#8217;s not over for HE yet &#8211; we need to try and make sure the people in power next will be more supportive.</p>
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		<title>By: SallyM</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268318</link>
		<dc:creator>SallyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What concerns me about the seeing kids alone thing is, taken with the latest report that the NHS is not meeting child protection targets, its only a baby step to think that should you take a child to A&amp;E with a broken arm or a twisted ankle and they see the child has bruises on their legs then they will demand to see the child alone to check for abuse. I don&#039;t want my kids put under that kind of pressure and I&#039;m not even HEing. My kids clam up whenever they are asked a direct question from someone they don&#039;t know and the rubbish that DS1 has come out with in the past (&quot;I am allergic, I&#039;m allergic to the sun&quot;, turned out he meant it made him sneeze) combined with the verbatim quoting DS3 does from TV programmes whether its entirely appropriate or not makes me think that its a situation I would end up regretting. Chris, there is a link about somewhere to the full text of the debate that the quote came from, I just can&#039;t remember where. It certainly isn&#039;t taken out of context here though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What concerns me about the seeing kids alone thing is, taken with the latest report that the NHS is not meeting child protection targets, its only a baby step to think that should you take a child to A&amp;E with a broken arm or a twisted ankle and they see the child has bruises on their legs then they will demand to see the child alone to check for abuse. I don&#8217;t want my kids put under that kind of pressure and I&#8217;m not even HEing. My kids clam up whenever they are asked a direct question from someone they don&#8217;t know and the rubbish that DS1 has come out with in the past (&#8220;I am allergic, I&#8217;m allergic to the sun&#8221;, turned out he meant it made him sneeze) combined with the verbatim quoting DS3 does from TV programmes whether its entirely appropriate or not makes me think that its a situation I would end up regretting. Chris, there is a link about somewhere to the full text of the debate that the quote came from, I just can&#8217;t remember where. It certainly isn&#8217;t taken out of context here though.</p>
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		<title>By: merry</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268314</link>
		<dc:creator>merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there, to prove me wrong, it didn&#039;t mod you the second time. Actually, it is clearly just a toddler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there, to prove me wrong, it didn&#8217;t mod you the second time. Actually, it is clearly just a toddler.</p>
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		<title>By: merry</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268313</link>
		<dc:creator>merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to agree. (PS, sorry about the modded comment, this site seems to have it in for a totally random set of people, no matter how often they comment or i approve them and there is nothing i can do to persuade it or make it think otherwise. Should rename it PoP goes the Badman...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to agree. (PS, sorry about the modded comment, this site seems to have it in for a totally random set of people, no matter how often they comment or i approve them and there is nothing i can do to persuade it or make it think otherwise. Should rename it PoP goes the Badman&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tech</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268312</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>false positives rather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>false positives rather</p>
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		<title>By: Tech</title>
		<link>http://www.patchofpuddles.co.uk/archives/2662/spelling-it-out-some-more/comment-page-1#comment-268311</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope isn&#039;t really good enough is it? Anti terrorism laws have been perverted time and again, so it&#039;s not out of the realms of possibility for this to be misused too. That particular piece relates to a section 47 enquiry, and whilst we may not actually be threatened with a section 47, it is entirely possible that, should statute say we must submit our children for questioning and we refuse, they will then invoke the powers created under that section.

We have children&#039;s charities - spits - saying that more children should be taken into care, even if they wrongly remove children. We have Badman saying the self same thing - better to save one child etc. The problem is, these people have, presumably, never been on the receiving end of a social services referral. I happen to know at least 2 home edders who have been maliciously reported and the long term damage done has been really unpleasant. One of these families was subject to a year of investigations, that has left the whole family very damaged. False negatives are abusive, to think otherwise is to delude ourselves, and this is something that the PT(DOT)B whether genuinely or wilfully, don&#039;t appear to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope isn&#8217;t really good enough is it? Anti terrorism laws have been perverted time and again, so it&#8217;s not out of the realms of possibility for this to be misused too. That particular piece relates to a section 47 enquiry, and whilst we may not actually be threatened with a section 47, it is entirely possible that, should statute say we must submit our children for questioning and we refuse, they will then invoke the powers created under that section.</p>
<p>We have children&#8217;s charities &#8211; spits &#8211; saying that more children should be taken into care, even if they wrongly remove children. We have Badman saying the self same thing &#8211; better to save one child etc. The problem is, these people have, presumably, never been on the receiving end of a social services referral. I happen to know at least 2 home edders who have been maliciously reported and the long term damage done has been really unpleasant. One of these families was subject to a year of investigations, that has left the whole family very damaged. False negatives are abusive, to think otherwise is to delude ourselves, and this is something that the PT(DOT)B whether genuinely or wilfully, don&#8217;t appear to understand.</p>
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